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 Post subject: will someone please fix the forum search!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:58 am 
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Hi

The hibernate forum here might be the worst resource on the internet for getting information about hibernate. You would think it would be the best, but you can't friggin search!!! Click page 2, no results met your criteria every time!! It's been like this for months I can't believe nobody has even attempted to fix it. Obviously some lousy programmer has never heard the phrase "don't live with broken windows."

And who the hell had the idea that you can search entire posts, entire posts and titles, but not just titles?? WTF is that about?

There's so many useless threads and it's impossible to sift through them, so everyone starts a new one which just compounds the problem.

Whoever maintains the php crap for this forum needs to get it together.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:11 am 
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lol yeah, it's pretty useless. But what can you do when a bunch of people are asking questions about something of which they have no knowledge of.

It'd be cool if there was categories or metadata like stuff to add to your topic to aid in searching, but then people would have to use them, someone would have to write the software, and bla bla bla.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:34 am 
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yeah if i were in charge of this forum i would scrap it and roll out the new version of phpBB, this is so dated and most importantly BROKEN

this could be a great resource for hibernate (which is beyond great!!) but since it is such an indepth persistence service there's a ton of information you need to get moving with it. this should be the best place to get taht information but in reality this place is just a massive database of useless posts with 0 replies. it's a shame really, i can't believe it's been this way for so long.

www.ubuntuforums.org does a very nice job, too good of a job actually. just the stock version of the forum they're using would do wonders for this place.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:57 am 
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right now i have something i want to ask

i try to search and get 800 results, 98% are entirely irrelevant. if i could actually SEE page 2 and 3 it wouldn't even help because anyone doing this would have the post titled correctly but we can't search on that!! seriously who is in charge here? i am fuming over this

i'm not even going to bother typing a new thread up because i know i won't get a response, it will just add to the clutter.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:07 pm 
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You ever tried searching hibernate's site or google, or reading the book? There is alot of good stuff out there. Google searches these forums and hibernate's jira install, not to mention the countless other articles written by tech people.

Forums are hard to maintain. These are kept here for free, and it would be alot of work to moderate the topics created to include decent tags related to the problem someone asked so that it was searchable.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:21 pm 
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books and google are good for basic stuff. i've read 2 books on hibernate and google has saved my ass dozens of times. but for more obscure arcane things a forum or mailing list is the only way to go. i've googled this topic up and down and i need to ask someone. but i won't cause i know nobody will answer. there's a good chance it has been asked before, and is on say page 4 of the search results.

i'm not asking for a full time person to moderate every thread. what i am asking for is some forum software that isn't 6 years old and a search feature that isn't totally worthless.

really all we need is someone to look at the code when you click page 2 and fix it so that it goes to page 2. and add the option to search by titles only. this can't be that hard, probably 30 minutes worth of work max .... i'm not sure why these problems even exist in the first place, let alone have annoyed us all for so long and nothing has been said or done about it!

the payoff that 30 minutes would yield would be tremendous for the entire community, which would ultimately make hibernate even better. it's all about the open sharing of good information, but what good is it if you can't find it?


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And: Of course the issue isn't fixable in 30 minutes. Otherwise we would have done that. The truth is that phpBB is a piece of shit, and especially the search functionality is horrible. Now, to proof me wrong, all you have to do is fix it. The search feature is an untouched phpBB 2.0.6. Send me your patches.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:17 pm 
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i knew that was coming, the standard OSS community response. "why don't you do it" =)

so the issue is not with you guys but with those php kids, big surprise.

http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=507324

an end might be in sight, when 3.0 is officially released this needs to be upgraded. i just wanted to make sure someone out there was aware of the poor quality of this forum (not the users but the code) and that they are at least investigating a fix.

i'm just in a really shitty mood today & i don't feel like working on anything so i'm going to download the code and see how bad it really is. i need a good laugh


while i've got you're attention, is there a way to write a custom Id generator class that

Code:
if (type of pk extends Number)  {
    generator type = auto
} else if (type of pk is String)  {
    generator type = assigned
}


I'm trying to make this work,

Code:
@MappedSuperclass
public abstract class AbstractEntity<PK extends Serializable> implements Serializable {
   @Id @GenerateIntelligently
    protected PK id;
}


I've seen a few people do this sort of thing before, but the PK type is not generic, always Long. I would be fine with that but i have one application that is very cool because it uses assigned Strings for the PK. i just need to find out how to have some flexibility & intelligence in the generation strategy, any ideas?


Last edited by lloyd.mcclendon on Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:26 pm 
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also vBulletin is only $160, i'll donate $50 toward the cause if we can get the other 110. apparently the phpbb2 importer thing actually works pretty well.



thoughts?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:45 am 
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Thats kind of you, lloyd.mcclendon.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:08 am 
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thanks

i'm serious, i think it would be $50 well spent

i figured out how to do what i wanted with the ID generator, see here http://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?t=971404


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 Post subject: Google Search
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:08 pm 
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I don't know how to do this but maybe someone else can.

Isn't there a way to search a specific site with google say something like

www.google.com/url=forum.hibernate.org/

if someone knows the correct syntax for this post here and we'll have a temporary solution.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:08 pm 
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i think it is just site:www.asdfasdfasd

but they won't have every page on here indexed, google is not omniscient


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