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I have been working with Hibernate 3.0.5, trying to convert some joins from the 2.1.7 style into the less-forgiving 3.0.5 version. What an aggravating experience. I tried HQL, but found that did not use the ON keyword. Then, I tried the Native SQL.
I'm not writing to point to any particular problem. Here is the greater issue. So many times while working with Hibernate, I get back these completely cryptic messages that tell me, in effect, SOMETHING WAS WRONG. What? No guidance. Go to the exception log and it shows the SQL that was generated but NOTHING ELSE.

So, my point? For god sakes, please provide some feedback in your expceptions! If you find something wrong, then tell me what you didn't like!

I know this is what it's like being a pioneer... but for god's sake, please echo back the code that was in error. Give us a fighting chance to figure it out. I've bought the books: Hibernate in Action, looked at the reference documents, tried to step through your cryptic source, but I have no idea what is going wrong. I have typed in examples from your notes and they don't work!

Hibernate team: if you have pride in your work, why don't you explain your exceptions better? Why not echo back the original cause of the problem.

Instead, we get: SOMETHING WAS WRONG. SORRY!

Why don't you tell us what the less than perfect exceptions messages are ?

We cannot sit around generating every possible error situation in the world to cover all cases - if you had a bit pride in your self you had checked out the source code and applied a patch or at least went to the jira and realized that whenever someone suggests an improvement to exception messages that is better than the existing we actually apply it!

"if you had a bit pride in your self "

Max,
Is it really necessary to resort to a personal attack like this?
Of course I have read everything I can get my hands on.
Of course I have been wading through the souce code.
Of course I will now try to effect a patch.

Your rude comment is not necessary and it is not productive. You are listed as being a member of the Hibernate Team. In my professional life, I believe the word "team" means that you help one another. Your unnecessary rudeness has made me understand that this forum is a place for bullies such as yourself to waste my time. Enjoy your life.

huh ? I only answered in the same tone as you ,)

If "if you have pride in your work" isn't a personal attack as much as yours I don't know.

in any case - just implying that we dont have any pride in our work is not going to help your, me nor the team in making the product better - you need to be more concrete...