Good day!

I have seen Hibernate become more and more popular (which I truly appreciate and understand, its a great tool) but at the same time, the size of the application becomes larger and larger, from v2.1 to 3.0 the lib increased by 500k and even the minimum required 3rdparty libraries take up to 2.35 MB of drivespace.

Now I would like to know if anyone has managed to shrink hibernate by removing unwanted stuff. The HSQL-DB project for instance offers a build file with 4 different targets, each one building for a different environment: the smallest contains just the jdbc-driver stuff, next up the local-standalone-db-server is added, next target also adds remote servers, the final target puts also every utility in the package, thus offering packages from a few 100k to 1MB in size.

Would it be possible to build Hibernate also this way or would that break too much stuff? What else of the 3rdparty libraries might not really be neccessary? Or should I just look for an alternative and smaller ORM-tool?

Thanks for your opinions in advance
MVeeck

you could try and have some fun with http://genjar.sourceforge.net/ and see how far you can get....

/max