Is there a download that does NOT include all the dependent wst/emf/etc plugins?

It seems that sooo many plugins want to include all this stuff which means only the first plugin ever loads, resulting in subsequent plugins failing with the infamous "Could not install bundle .. has already been installed...".

-barry

what would the purpose be ? :)

eclipse picks up the latest wtp anyway and if you install something that runs on something older the old will break, and if you install something newer then hibernate tools will break....independent on wether WTP is bundled with it or not.

..in any case, just delete all the non org.hibernate plugins in there and it is "clean' if you can find any usage for it.