So I've got a one to many list association that I'm inserting to. I observe that even when using List semantics with IndexColumn it still needs to fully initialize my collection even though it's LAZY whenever I add an element to this collection.

I'm looking to add to a collection where I don't need to fully initialize it's existing contents. Is that possible? In my case I'm not using Set to I have no uniqueness expectations so why does it need to initialize the to-many part of this association whenever I want to add an element to it?

I have large collections. I don't want to use an extra lazy collection for what I'm doing.

I need to be able to optimize writes such that for very large collections it doesn't need to initialize the collection before it will let me do my insert of this element in the collection.

As far as I can tell the only way to not initialize a collection when you add to it is to make it an extra lazy association.