Hi,

As I have seen in all forums, road maps,... there is nothing about having a new feature which allows the inialization of a detached object in a cascade way.

More explanations: in the service layer, I want to work in a lazy mode. Sometimes, I need to pass fully initialized detach objects to my UI layer (all collections of collections have to be initialized).

Is there another way to do it ? Should I post it as a new feature request ?

Thanks in advance

Oh, I am sure there is a LOT regarding this in the forums (can't recall a conrete one, but I am sure I read something). And normaly the answer is just a short "no" :) I do not think Hibernate will ever be changed in a way to allow auto-open a session in presentation tier just to load the lazy-loaded associations. I wouldn't like the implicitness of such an approach too.
cu,

:) That was a quick one! :) Thanks,

jfsublet, Why can't Hibernate just load objects on demand? is maybe of special interest, since you speak about detached objects.

cu,

Sorry, It was not clear enough: I don't want to have an auto-open session in the UI Layer.

In my UI Layer, I would like to work on detached object which are yet fully initialized.

A way to ensure this is to clone my persistent objects in the service layer (or to initialize them using Hibernate.initialize(Object o).

But it means that I could have a lot of database requests :(

Now you lost me - You do not have to have fully initilized objects in the UI layer - you only should have the lazy associations loaded you really need (thus the database requests are inevitable). And you can do this in your service layer or using the open-sesion-in-view pattern while rendering your view.