Hibernate version: 3.05

Just a couple quick questions.

1) If I have a lazy class and call Hibernate.Initialize() on an instance of it, will the entire object including any collections also be loaded from the database?

2) How come if I use load() to get an object from the database is it still lazily loaded? If I am asking for a specific instance shouldn't it be assumed that I really do want it? It seems a waste to have to call initialize() on an object I loaded so it will be available on the jsp.

Thanks,
Karl

1. It shouldn't be hard to just try this out and see, but I believe only the object itself will be initialized, collections will still remain lazy-loaded (won't load until you ask for them).

2. One use-case for this behavior is deleting objects. If you have to load the entire object before deleting it, it's two round-trips. Since load() returns a proxy (doesn't hit the database), you can then delete it, and no select occurs before the delete. You can use get() if you want it to be loaded immediately.

I did try the first one, and you are correct.

Thanks for the tip on get(). The API verbage is almost identical between load() and get() except it says get() returns null if the object can't be found. So I just assumed other than that, the methods did the same thing.

Thanks,
Karl